Mr Chase,

Direct from pg.70 of the Dept. of State Local Gov't Handbook, pg.70

>>>The*** village board*** has broad powers to govern the affairs of the village, including:
? organizing itself and providing for rules of procedure;
? adopting a budget and providing for the financing of village activities;
? abolishing or creating offices, boards, agencies, and commissions and delegating powers to these units;
? managing village properties; and
****? granting final approval of appointments of all non- elected officers and employees made by the mayor.***
The mayor presides over meetings of the board. A majority of the board, as fully constituted, is a quorum. No business may be transacted unless a quorum is present.<<<

There you have it. The Village Board grants final approval of appointments of all non- elected officers and employees. NOT the Mayor.

As much as Mr Chase tries to obfuscate to enable the Mayor to usurp power not given to him by NYS Law, rather then truly clarifying this issue. Yes in 50 years the Mayor always had his pick approved by the majority of Trustees. That in no way makes it Law. In 50 years we have never had a Mayor like Mayor Gross. He is an obstinate tyrant who has turned almost every village employee against him. I too endorsed and voted for Mayor Gross during his first term. Never again. He has single handily managed to damage the spirit of our village. Mr. Chase can continue to enable him and cost the village excess legal fees(wasted money) until March.

Pat Welch

I think the point he was trying to make is the mayor has the right to make the appointment and then the board grants final approval but in this case the mayor did not appoint this firm so a basic step was missed.

"granting final approval of appointments of all non- elected officers and employees made by the mayor."
John Hurban

I agree with the posted comment at 1:47 PM - whomever that was. The statute is clear that the Mayor has the responsibility to select non-elected officers and employees, and not that of the board. Granting final approval of appointments of all non-elected officers and employees (emphasis here) MADE BY THE MAYOR. (Sorry for the shouting)

Sorry that Pat won't vote again for Joe. obstinate and tyrant don't really describe Joe. really. i would say tring to care for the safety and well-being of an odd little community of activists of differing views - somewhat a bedroom community to the city and to the conservative side of West Point. wouldn't want his job for (excuse the expression) all the tea in China (does China really have all that much tea?) soooo - Go Joe!!

James and Anonymous Poster,

Rah rah sis boom bah, Won't change who the Mayor is as a person. I'm a patient man and believe good eventually triumphs. So with that I'll wait for March and let the voters speak. No cheerleading from me.

James, if you knew what little thing I had asked our Mayor to do a few years ago to keep the parents and children who attend COH elementary safer and the action he took I'm certain you would have a different opinion. If you know me please introduce yourself if you see me as I would love to tell you. This is why I refer to him as a small man. Small of heart and character not of stature.

MAYOR CANNOT CHOSE COUNSEL
Mr Chase,yes the Mayor is the CEO and a member of the Board, serving as chair. He may vote on any question and must vote to break a tie. He does not have veto power.
Legal counsel is decided by the Board, not the Mayor.He can and should recommend counsel, but cannot select.Mr Gross is apparently listening to poor inaccurate advice from perhaps yourself,Mr Chase, which has caused considerable harm to our community, possibly to assist Mr Gross in his political career, which many residents hope will end in about three months.
In my opinion,with over a quarter century experience as Mayor ,if Mr Gross will not act on the direction or will of the Board, he should resign, or be removed from office.

Ed Moulton
Cornwall On Hudson

I personally believe that conflict of interest is detrimental to all tax payers. Its something we see all to often in Washington and here in this village. I have been sitting back and watching this board tear apart a mayor who is trying his damnist to keep things on an equilibrium not for his benefit but for the benefit of the people who pay taxes. maybe I'm wrong or just some don't really understand when we hire a lawyer who has conflict with village matters it clouds judgment and often we pay more for that clouded judgment. I have to wonder why the three on the board fired the previous law firm in which had no conflicts of interest with the dpw and now we fight about legal bills.
Happy Holidays to all
Respectfully
I. Buescher

Yes J Buescher you're wrong.
Mayor Ed Moulton is correct.

Pat Welch

Wow. Ed, as your former neighbor (actually mom was your former neighbor), I am surprised at your vitriol. As I think back from Mayor Donohue's reign as mayor to the present, actually not a great deal has changed - other than businesses failing and leaving town. I don't really understand why there is so much negativity towards Joe - frankly, I have always liked him and think he is pretty straight up and certainly not looking to use the Mayor's office to higher political aspirations. I am thinking of the old saying - when you mention your quarter century experience as mayor - that just because one spends a lot of time doing something, dosen't mean he is that much better as he may have just been doing the same thing over and over.

And as for Pat, having gone to C-O-H elementary and having been safe despite all of the dangers back then, I am confident that Joe does whatever he can. I am beginning to think that this forum is sort of like how CB's suddenly became popular in the 70's and everyone could get on the radio ... it made radio sort of stupid (citizen's band) so... Happy Christmas, Happy Channukah and, most of all, Happy Festivus to ALL.

J. Buescher,

You were all for keeping the full time Police in COH awhile ago. Now that the Mayor is apparently not in favour of our Full Time Police neither are you.

You are one of the full time sycophants of the Mayor with no mind of your own. I'm not surprised.

Pat Welch

James,

Mayor Moulton has espoused no vitriol. He has stated plain fact.

As far a Mayor Gross he has displayed disdain for his constituents and I predicate will be
resoundly defeated come March. None to soon I may add.

pat i never said I'm not in favor of full time officers what you say is the furthest from the truth.

John,

You're correct. I'm sorry. We're on the same page for keeping our own full time Police. As a Dad I'm sure you know the importance. Thanks, Pat

I think Mr Chase mistates the facts when he says that the Board fired the village attorney and replaced that person with an attorney for the board. The Village has never created the position of "Village Attorney". If it had, then that he would be correct that that employee is a mayoral appointment. However, legal services in the Village have always been provided by an "attorney for the village". An attorney for the village is not an employee subject to mayoral appointment, but an independent contractor hired by the village. That hiring merely requires a majority vote of the Board of Trustees.
There is nothing strange about a municipal chief exectutive officer not having control over the attorney for the municipality. New York State's Attorney General provides legal services to both the executive and legislative branches without being selected by either.
Further, there may be confusion as to "who the client is" for a municipal lawyer. It is not the mayor or the board of trustees. It is the municipality. When a municipal attorney is doing the public's work, the answer to legal questions should not hinge upon upon who selected the attorney. That would be a recipe for disaster and a great disservice to the community.

Thank You Mr. Protter,

That is exactly the way the Law reads no matter how Mr Chase wants to twist it.

Nero would be proud.

burn. Burn. BURN! Buwaah ha ha ha !

For former Mayor Moulton, who had counsel of his choosing for his entire 26-year term of office, now to criticize his successor, who's not had that same luxury for the past seven months, rings rather hollow under the circumstances.

And the Village's records show that the position of "Deputy Village Attorney" was created on May 25, 1982, by a motion made by Trustee Al Mazzocca (at Mayor Moulton's request), specifically so that it could be filled by in individual village resident, namely, Mr. Protter. Perhaps Mr. Protter will recall being present at that time. Even the Village's "Oath Book" shows that Mr. Protter took the oath as "Deputy Village Attorney" every year from 2003 through 2007. These documented facts are completely at odds with both his and the Board majority's story now that the work has been performed all along by "independent contractors."

And the fundamental fact remains: at NO TIME in the past 50 years of this Village's history has the Mayor not had the advice of a Village Attorney to whose employment he has agreed. Until this year.

People can say what they like. It is the Village records which clearly show what the past practice has been.

Mayor Moulton had the counsel of his choosing because the majority of the board always agreed. Why? Because Mayor Moulton EARNED their respect. He was and remains a true gentleman.

Mayor Gross tries to COMMAND respect by bullying and other tactics. Is it any wonder then that no one respects him except a very few?

I've never seen one man so fracture a small 3,000 population village as Mayor Gross. It's a damn shame but one I believe will be corrected shortly.

I want to thank all our great Villagers who came out in strong support of our full time officers. Don't forget to come out just as strong come March so we can bring this lever of bitterness to an end.

"I've never seen one man so fracture a small 3,000 population village as Mayor Gross. It's a damn shame but one I believe will be corrected shortly."

Pat - You make it very difficult to hear the points you are trying to make based on your hatred of the Mayor. You have every right to your opinion and I respect that right. BUT.... you must please admit that when you make an accusation that the Mayor is responsible for fracturing a 3,000 pop village, you don't speak the whole truth.

The board majority (Kane, Vattar, Edsel) have decided to run, not walk, full steam into several gray areas of law at one time. They have used their majority to override any cooperative decision making process. They have hired their own attorney and destroyed an already over-burdened budget. They have ended working meetings. They have acted in a less than professional way. And even if you think the Mayor has done the same, why should the majority slip to his level? Don't the people of this village deserve more?

I don't disagree that the Mayor has acted childish more than a few times over, but I don't see how you cannot openly acknowledge that the actions taken by the board majority have been the main reason for the incredibly high volume of discourse recently.

A majority does not provide the right to bring the business of the village to a halt... which is what the BIG THREE have decided to do at the taxpayers expense.

If they don't like the Mayor, and if the people of COH are WITH THEM, then they can vote him out in just a few short months.

I recommend that if you plan to vote out the Mayor, I would also add a full vote of no confidence to every other member of the board as well.

Jake,

My take on Mayor Gross is coloured due to my personal interactions with him. From small thing like having the DPM shovel the exit in the municipal lot to make it safer for the kids and their parents. He listened to me then had the DPW put up 2 x 4's so the parents and kids have to use the same entry/exit as the cars. This is a real hazard in snowy icy weather. I could go on and on. He has shown nothing but disrespect towards the Village People. Don't forget the incident where he was going to ORDER our voluntary fire dept. to take the lights off the Christmas Tree in the Village Square. Sorry but you CAN'T order a volunteer. He has so polarized everyone I find it incredulous.

I can't make meeting on Mondays because my wife works Monday nights so I must stay home with the girls. I'd be at every meeting if I could so don't completely understand all the dynamics going on but it is always Mayor Gross vs. everyone else. I know all the Village workers. I can tell you straight away they can't stand him and are continually threatened by him. Without naming names he threatened one employee and said he was to fat for the job and had no business smoking.

My wife took a vacation day just so I could show up and support our last two remaining full time officers. It is my hope every board member listens to the people. Others wise as one Village resident said I won't vote for a single member of the board.

Pat Welch

Pat - I will not claim to know all of the comings and goings of the village but it sounds like you make some fair points. Just be aware that getting rid of one issue (Mayor Gross) will not make the problems stop. If a new Mayor is elected, it is the responsibility of the board to work with the mayor and vice-versa. Vice-versa being the key point. Small gov't is a two way street. Apparently the board majority thinks the best strategy is to stall every measure the Mayor wants to take; to be a roadblock to any potential progress and to use any scrap of law and read it to best suit their needs.... not to best suit the needs of the village residents.

Your beef(and others) with the Mayor does not justify the actions taken by the board majority. I respect their service and appreciate their dedication... but I question their motives as I imagine many other residents do. Why must they bring so much negativity and venom to the meetings. The village faces serious problems and the childish behavior does not stop at the Mayor. It runs deep in the veins of the board.

Cutting the tail off of a snake will not kill the snake. Right now, the mayor's power is the tail, the head of the problem is the attitude on the board. I hope you can accept this on face value and include it as part of the overall problem and adjust some of your focus to include the ENTIRE problem, not just one key part.

Happy Holidays to you and your family.

It's easy to act like a King when people treat you that way. This town (or village) has never learned to let go of the past, embrace the future and GROW. Instead, it has clung to past grievances (the Donahue Park stone acknowledging the efforts of people trying to save Storm King Mt. from Con Ed's development)and, in doing so, have continued to draw a line in the sand that villagers see as "them or us." The "them" and the "us" are the same tax payers in this community...the ones that should be pulling together whether "our guy" got elected or not. Otherwise we deserve exactly what we get.

Mary Vance, what do you see as proper growth? Seriously. Knowing you, I understand that it's not big-box stores, mattress-shipping warehouses and a proliferation of fast-food franchises that you're suggesting, but what is proper growth for the Village? I so often hear, "Oh, we need a Trader Joe's, and a Starbucks, and a wonderful bookstore, and a fabulous sushi bar, and a theater that showed independent films would be great..." as people bring their cosmopolitan sensibilities to a village that really doesn't appreciate or need them, but what is realistic?

If one believes that location location location is paramount, the Village is right on the road between Nowhere and Nowhere (unless you believe that West Point commuters are on the lookout for sushi on the way home on 218...), and though we have several relatively successful small businesses, a Wiccan shop, a knitting-goods store, the excellent SKAT and a Yoga studio, virtually all of the other viable businesses are the usual small-town realtors, insurance agencies and car-repair garages. Where do we go beyond that, within reason? A few restaurants have made a go of it too, of course, and good for them: Donna and her Hudson Street Cafe shows what an understanding of the market can do, and of course Painter's is a Village institution.

I think there's a good argument to be made for the opportunity to simply live in a quiet, beautiful, backwater village with billion-dollar views, substantial serenity and only sustainable local growth That'll cost you in taxes if that's what you choose, but Cornwall taxes have never been a secret. (I recently urged a friend, a Continental Airlines captain of considerable seniority, to come move from Newburgh to the Village, since the house next to ours was for sale, and he said he couldn't afford the taxes. Better that than moving here and then griping.)

Is growth good? Maybe not.

I'm in total agreement with Stephan Wilkinson article. You do your DD in all aspects of life to include where you purchase a home. If you buy a home and decide 4 years later your taxes are too high I'd say someone didn't do their DD.

As far as Stephan"s friend who is an airline pilot I too have a friend who will soon be retiring from Delta. His pay was much greater then many pilots due to his hours flown while in the Air Force. Yes their pay actually fluctuates upon the amount of hours flown. Well he does not make nearly as much as many of you would believe. But he was smart enough to realize what he could and could not afford.

I live in a 1941 built home with a 15 year old edition. The taxes are appx. 10k. My wife wanted a newer home with an open floor plan. Every house we looked at had taxes over 20k a year. I told my wife, if we pay cash, (we could) that would still leave about 2k a month in taxes. How much house do we really need I said? Needless to say we stayed where we were and are quite comfortable.

Would you sacrifice the development of Donahue Park to halve your taxes? I sure wouldn't. Fast food establishments. I cringe at the thought. I'll take the >>>substantial serenity and only sustainable local growth<<< that Stephan mentioned and be glad for it. After all that is why most of us live and stay here.

Steve,I consider proper growth to be something between your comment" as people bring their cosmopolitan sensibilities to a village that really doesn't appreciate or need them" and boarded-up store fronts all along Main Street.I consider "proper growth" to be a community that isn't driving out retired people who can no longer afford the taxes and the rising expenses of essentials without benefit of entitlements.

Take a closer look at Main Street. Count the active, relatively prosperous businesses and you'll find they vastly outnumber the unoccupied offices. And point me toward a single "boarded-up storefront," if you will. I feel that image of boarded-up stores "all along Main Street" is a meme too automatically propagated, and we're doing ourselves no good by perpetuating it. Cornwall will never be Tarrytown, Piermont or Nyack, and some feel that's a good thing.

Certainly you're right about taxes and people trying to live on a fixed income, and I don't know what the answer to that is.

As for the rising expenses of essentials, I'm not sure what you mean--certainly food, electricity, gasoline and the like are beyond the control of the Town or Village--and as for "entitlements," I'm perfectly content with ours: the ability to live in Cornwall-on-Hudson.

Hi Mary,

I eat at breakfast at least twice a week at fiddle stix. Eric cuts my hair. My family will go out of their way just to buy on Main St. I'm friends with Pete and Sal I've eaten there so often(Painters). I bought at the open market all summer. We do all we can do to keep our dollars here in Cornwall.

Stephan says Cornwall will never be another Tarrytown, Piermont or Nyack. I sure hope he's correct. I'm one of those who feel it's a good thing. If we must bite the bullet and pay extra taxes so be it. That is one reason I always bought much less than I could afford in housing.

Essentials are food and energy which are not included in Core Inflation. I think they should be then those on fixed incomes would have their SS rise in proportion the the TRUE rate of inflation. It always amazes me how many people don't understand that food and energy is NOT included in Core Inflation yet is where most peoples money goes. I wish you all a Happy and Safe Holiday Season.

Pat

I have been giving much thought to this post ...

"As much as Mr Chase tries to obfuscate to enable the Mayor to usurp power not given to him by NYS Law, rather then truly clarifying this issue. Yes in 50 years the Mayor always had his pick approved by the majority of Trustees. That in no way makes it Law."

The topic seems to have gotten a bit off base from the original letter ... When the Mayor and the Board were first at contention about the choice, why did they not adjourn to attempt to find a party they were both amicable with?

And if in the case that the Mayor does not agree with the choice of appointed counsel, does he not have the right to find counsel of his own to guide him on how to rationally deal with the situation? Under that logic each member would be totally entitled to referring to their own counsel.

I think one good point was made here, two wrongs do not make one right. People might not like the way they feel the Mayor deals with things. That does not give them the right to deal with it by causing more issues.

Perhaps things have not been dealt with properly in the past. Part of properly dealing with things is proper communication. There is always chance for that in the future, on all sides.

Melissa,

I don't know if you have ever had any personal issues with Mayor Gross. I have. He will listen then do things only his way with NO COMPROMISE. The Mayor needs to make an appointment that the Majority of the board approves. He cannot do this because it is the Mayor who will not budge one iota.

>>>And if in the case that the Mayor does not agree with the choice of appointed counsel, does he not have the right to find counsel of his own to guide him on how to rationally deal with the situation? <<<

No he does not. He is one vote on the board he is not the dictator. That is the crux of the problem. Our Mayor, on all issues it seems, wants his way only and disdains the trustees input.

When Mayor Moulton was Mayor nothing like this ever happened. He was and remains a true gentleman. I also had dealing with Mayor Moulton over an issue and he handled it like the true professional. That is what is needed for the next Mayor in March. Someone who treats people with respect and who can compromise and work with the majority.

Pat Welch

I have had dealings with Mayor Gross. I do not go to a lot of the meetings, as I also do not have a lot of free time in the evenings. However, I did make it to one meeting to argue against the closing the of Dock Hill Road extension.

Not in agreement with the Mayor there. However, I never said he had right to bring in counsel to act in any representation of the Village. I said he has the right to consult with an individual on his own. All parties do. And in no way can those parties act as Village counsel, only personal guidance.

Really, if it was just the Mayor being unreasonable the board would have stalled everything at the point of appointing the attorney. They would have called it to the publics eyes then, not now that they are arguing if it was a proper appointment.

Mayor Moulton was also someone my family dealt with while in office. He assisted my mother with a dealing with a neighbor once. He was very pleasant and helpful. I do not know that my neighbor would agree. Once again there are two sides to every story. I also had Mrs. Moulton as my 5th grade teacher. I have been to their house once when I was about 10 yrs old. Just because things went smoothly during Mayor Moultons term does not mean that people never had issues. It also does not mean that a new Mayor after Mayor Gross will not have issues. If the people of this town want to have a government that runs smoothly we need to ask ALL parties to take the time to discuss things as adults AS they arise.

I really do not agree with a lot of Mayor Gross positions on the issues he wants to push through. But that doesnt mean I support entirely blaming him for issues in general. I think that any one reading these posts should stop and consider all sides. Even if they, like myself, rely on this forum to gain knowledge when they do not have they time to go to meetings.

Melissa,

When so many showed up at 12/20's meeting it wasn't about Mayor Gross or any specific board member. It was the Villagers coming together in one strong voice to support keeping our two full time Police Officers. It made me proud that so many Villagers came to tell the board what WE want as taxpayers. After seeing Andrew Argenio's video I believe we saw a little backpedaling with the entire board. One thing I believe is certain. The current board can no longer function as it has been and I don't see them changing. A reasonable person would sit down during one of their numerous work sessions and come to a compromise that all may not like but could live with and the Village would be better for it. I think we all understand that is not going to happen. Hopefully changes this March will address this matter.

Unfortunately, there are not two sides to a story when someone doesn't personally show up and shovel an icy walkway in between a parking lot and a building, right Pat?

In some people's universe not dropping everything shoveling a walk in a timely fashion = tyranny

Whoops, too much egg nog.

Merry Festivus everyone.

Pat,

Are you speaking of the parking lot right behind the bandstand next to the COH school? Because when IIIIII was a kid, who went to COH that parking lot was used for teachers ONLY during school hours. The buses pulled up into the large drive way RIGHT in front of the school building to drop off the kids ... notice it is designed to be wide enough to fit buses. The parents ALL lined up in that driveway to the left of the grassy area in front of the school, next to the current dry cleaners, to drop off any kids they were dropping off. Parents were not allowed to park. There was none of this stupid process of the school buses taking up all of hudson st to have them dropped off kids in the road with the crossing guard shuffling them over to the front lawn.

People spend too much time whining about how every one else has to look after their children's safety. I dont care about children falling on ice Pat, I really dont. You do.

But rather than have this be ONE issue that you do not agree with the MAyor on you venomously attack just ONE person on the board, not the board itself.

Parking in that parking lot is not a right, it wasnt when I was a kid. It was something the teachers, as employed adults of the school, were supposed to use. If they changed this and parents are allowed to use it, then you have one benefit that parents did not when I was a kid.

Rather than saying anything about the myriad of issues in this village you take a personal vendetta about something stupid. Again, there is an issue with the entire board and the way it is or is not currently running. Not just one man.

I went to that meeting about the Dock Hill Road extension. It is still open. Sometimes the Mayor listens, sometimes not. If he needs to work on how he plays with others and gives responses, I would totally agree with that. I do not agree with individuals in this town attempting to rally a witch hunt against one person.

>>>Rather than saying anything about the myriad of issues in this village you take a personal vendetta about something stupid.<<<

gump, I do not feel safety is "stupid" you may.

Personal Vendetta? Strong words for a disagreement on the way Mayor Gross handled the matter.

I resent your words. It is NOT a "Personal Vendetta". When have you ever heard me mention this during this thread until Ted Warren brought it up in a twisted fashion to suit his agenda.

Now to answer Ted Warren's Post. The matter you question is thus: The village municipal lot had for as long as I can remember had an opening in the corner next to COH elementary school. On a snow filled day appx. 3 years ago a woman with two small children almost fell due to this area not being shoveled and salted. When I asked Mayor Gross to look into it he did nothing. I spent the rest of the year shoveling it out.

The following year I mentioned it to Mayor Gross again. He said he would look into it. Three weeks later a parent showed me that DPW had put up 2 x 4's forcing the children and parents who use the municipal lot to enter and exit by foot the same way as the motor vehicles.. He never had the decency to even mention to me the way he resolved this issue. A five minute shoveling job and a little salt to protect the kids and their parents that is all it would have taken.

Best for the New Year,

Pat Welch(my REAL name)
and Village resident

gump,

I just had to reply to another comment you made.

>>>People spend too much time whining about how every one else has to look after their children's safety. I dont care about children falling on ice Pat, I really dont. You do.<<<

Gump,

I have a very good fried Darlene Scara. Her Dad was in his late 40's when he slipped on ice and died. Two years later Darlene's Mom died of Cancer. She was left an Orphan and went to live with an aunt. You're correct I do care. I care about everyone especially the children and senor citizens during inclement weather. While I'm discussing inclement weather too many of us take our DPW for granted. They do an outstanding job and I for one salute them. Who knows how many lives they have saved.

BTW, I drive my children to school and don't ask anyone "look after their children's safety". My wife and I watch our kids, make sure they do their homework, teach them manners and all the things parents should do. Unfortunately many children don't have parents that do these things and I have learned never to blame the children. Perhaps a donation to a cause you believe in will help the world become a better place.

Sincerely, Pat Welch

The original reason for the letter was the Mayors right to choose counsel,

If I am correct, this started because the Mayor wont take action on certain things.

The possibility of two people losing their jobs is something I do not take lightly. In comparison ice in the parking lots IS a stupid issue. Sorry.

Again, the board as a whole is at fault for things being stalled. If the board majority and the Mayor did not agree with the choice of counsel things SHOULD have been stalled at the point of choosing counsel not now. I am not into placing blame onto one person what a group of people creates.

Melissa/Gump,

If you scroll up you will see it was Ted Warren who introduced the ice/snow shovel into this thread not I. I answered his verbal assault against me with a proper explanation of exactly what happened.

I feel sorry for you feeling that people falling on ice is not an important matter. May all your roads be plowed and salted.

Pat Welch

The original purpose of the letter to the editor was the MAyors right to choose counsel.

The meeting on 12/20 was about two officers jobs,

From everything I have read, even if the Mayor does not have veto power, I have not read anything that gives the Board the power to approve someone of their choosing against the Mayors will.

Fact is two peoples jobs and our police force is at stake. Whoever gets voted in as Mayor is going to have to deal with a board. The issue of our government functioning or not functioning is not going to just go away in March if we do not deal with the board as a whole.

Pat,

It was mostly a joke because you have mentioned that walkway and patch of ice about 20 or 30 times since I've started reading and posting in this forum. You are this close to being some kind of a stalker over the issue. Your constant attacks on the mayor always seem to boil down to the fact that he did not resolve that relatively insignificant issue to YOUR satisfaction. I'm sorry, but it's pretty comical at this point...and I had a little too much egg nog.

C'est la vie

Ted.

You got some nerve making this accusation. If you think I'll stop posting because you label me a stalker you will find you have made a huge mistake.

>>>You are this close to being some kind of a stalker <<<

You Ted Warren are this close to becoming a sycophant of Mayor Gross. You take only one side of any story and twist it to your satisfaction.

Again two years ago when this issue came up I told you Pat that the board was put up to protect the village from a potential lawsuit. The 'cut through" is unsafe it is not a side walk nor is it a suitable walkway. This path is narrow with a steep decline. I would hope that if anyone is interested in that path that pat is talking about take a walk over to the parking lot and you will see the boards blocking that unsafe "cut through". That's all. And what will come next will be Pat calling me every name in the book.

J.buescher

No J.B. as long as you don't call me any name I won't you.

I would hope the editor would take out that comment you gave ted it is quite obscene.
J.buescher

No one is asking you to stop posting, Pat. This is a public forum and you have just as much right to post here as anyone else, as long as it doesn't devolve into name calling

I was just pointing out how funny it is that you seem unable to let that one issue drop.

Whatever.

This thread has become a comedy-film train wreck, and like seeing such a wreck, I can't resist revisiting every hour or so to read the newest hilarity.

Keep it up, people, it's a slow week otherwise.